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GfK(Posted 2008) [#1]
....tested your game on, and what was the conclusion?


jhans0n(Posted 2008) [#2]
My little "Armand and the Foppish Hat" and "Senet" games both run fine on my wife's old AMD Duron 1000 with a cheap Geforce4 MX card in it, or on a G4 Mac Mini. I haven't tested below those levels, though.


xlsior(Posted 2008) [#3]
....tested your game on, and what was the conclusion?


Last time I tested a game-in-progress I'm working on on two low-end computers, the results were significantly different:

- On a whitebox desktop with 128MB RAM and AMD K6 400MHz with a Voodoo3 card (16Mb Video memory), it ran at full speed. (60 fps)
- On a Compaq Armada E500 laptop (600MHz, with Rage Mobility video) the same game got between 0.5 FPS and 0.2FPS. (Yes, that's 2 to 5 seconds between frames. Old BlitzBasic ran fine, but suffice it to say that it doesn't do any hardware 3D acceleration)


slenkar(Posted 2008) [#4]
I have 2 PC's with intel gfx cards.
Intel chipsets are in almost half of PC's according to the Unity poll.
They create a huge bottleneck with their bad fillrate.
The language runs fine but if you draw lots of big images you are going to see FPS drop from 120FPS to 30-40.


MGE(Posted 2008) [#5]
"Geforce4 MX" is no slouch when it comes to "2d via 3d" rendering.

I develop on:
Intel Celeron: 2.93ghz
512mb
Intel 82845G Integrated Series

If my game runs at 30fps or greater, I'm satisfied.


jhans0n(Posted 2008) [#6]
Yeah, it does fine, especially for a 6 year old card that was like $40 new.

I develop on a MacBook (not MacBook Pro). I figure if it runs on that (which has integrated graphics), and runs on the G4 Mac Mini, I've got my Mac users pretty well covered.

Since I target the Mac, that's where my testing takes place. If it runs at all on a Windows machine, that's just a bonus.


SLotman(Posted 2008) [#7]
I usually develop stuff on my faithful P2-400, 256mb RAM and a geforce 4MX.

Runs a lot of stuff from B3D pretty well. But on my latest game (still developing it) itīs struggling...

Of course, I also test my games on newer/better machines :)


GfK(Posted 2008) [#8]
Reason I asked is that I've just cobbled together a test system:

PIII 733MHz
256Mb RAM
8MB shared graphics (see below)
Windows XP Home

As you can see I want to invest as little as possible in this thing. The motherboard does not have an AGP slot - I had an ATI Rage Pro in my junk cupboard that I was going to use but now I can't as I didn't realise I was limited to PCI (not PCI-E).

Is there anywhere that I might be able to get an old-ish PCI graphics card? I'm thinking along the lines of a 32MB GeForce 2 MX or something like that.

The only ones I can find on eBay are either not what I'm looking for, or are in Japan/China/Germany/Somewhere else.


markcw(Posted 2008) [#9]
If you can't get a Geforce on ebay then get an old ATI, like this one:
"ATI Radeon 7000 64Mb DDR V/D/VO PCI Graphics Card"


Sledge(Posted 2008) [#10]
Pretty sure I have a PCI Voodoo 4 knocking around in a cupboard -- you're welcome to it if I can dig it out.


Yahfree(Posted 2008) [#11]
I have a 500mhz p3 with voodoo 16mb card.

I have xubuntu on it and it runs my particle engine OK (well like 500 particles)


xlsior(Posted 2008) [#12]
Is there anywhere that I might be able to get an old-ish PCI graphics card? I'm thinking along the lines of a 32MB GeForce 2 MX or something like that.


Froogle is your friend:

http://www.google.com/products?q=GeForce+2+MX+

(used ones Starting at $14.99, it seems)


GfK(Posted 2008) [#13]
Thanks for the offer, Sledge; I completely forgot about this thread.

I just picked up a PCI 64MB GeForce 4 from eBay for Ģ6!


TartanTangerine (was Indiepath)(Posted 2008) [#14]
PII 400Mhz 192KB Ram - G400MAX 32MB GPU with XP - I also have a non-3d card in the unit to test software renders. Still goes like the clappers as long as it's not loaded with Win32 Bloatware.


GfK(Posted 2008) [#15]
PII 400Mhz 192KB Ram - G400MAX 32MB GPU with XP
...and Blitzmax games actually work on that? o.O


*(Posted 2008) [#16]
I use a 1.5Ghz Via laptop with Via Unichrome graphics (shared) if it works on that it will work on anything :)

Although nothing works on me speccy 48k :(


markcw(Posted 2008) [#17]
> I just picked up a PCI 64MB GeForce 4 from eBay for Ģ6!

Nice, I didn't know Geforce 4 was still using PCI.


GaryV(Posted 2008) [#18]
My work machine is a 500MHz/ 128MB RAM/ Nvidia 8MB AGP running XP Home. It runs the BMax apps I write just fine and I use the OpenGL drivers.


Grey Alien(Posted 2008) [#19]
Tim tested my first two games on that PC, but they were BPlus. Can't remember if he tested any of my BMax ones...


GfK(Posted 2008) [#20]
Nice, I didn't know Geforce 4 was still using PCI.
My bad. What I bought was actually a 128MB Radeon 9250.

Got a bit confused as I was watching about half a dozen different ones. :)